When one thinks of the comedy stylings of Ricky
Gervais, the word "sincerity" may not immediately come to mind.
That's exactly why he created, writes and stars in Netflix's "Derek," for which
he earned an Emmy nomination for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy.
"You don't want to do the same thing over and over again," Gervais tells
TheWrap. "People even thought it was some sort of life change. Like people have
asked me, 'So is this a new you?' No, I'm the same me, I'm just something
different. I'll probably go back to doing 'The Office' again, I'll probably do
the Golden Globes again one year and say awful things, my stand up is going to
be the most offensive ever. But this is me doing something else for an
An experiment in self-discovery, perhaps, as Gervais says in one way or
another, all of his characters have been an extension of him. David Brent of
"The Office" and Andy Millman from "Extras" each own to a different aspect of
Gervais' outsized persona, but Derek is the most deeply personal out of all of
"Derek's sort of me when I was eight-years-old before the world told me to
try to be cool and cynical, bow to peer pressure, and worry about what you seem
to like," he says. "Derek has no filter, Derek says what he thinks and Derek's
the person I'd sort of quite like to be I guess.
"He is the first person I played that is a part of me, that's a heroic part
of me — it's all good — and the reason I made him hunched and shuffled with bad
hair, getting words wrong and all those things is because they're all trivial.
None of those are more important things. I wanted this to be anti-fashion,
anti-cool, anti-fame and I wanted kindness to come along and trump
TheWrap: What was the most challenging thing you did on "Derek" this
year? Gervais: Be sincere. As a comedian probably most associated with
the comedy, embarrassment, excruciating social faux pas, snark, social satire,
bringing down the rich and famous at the Golden Globes, openly being a fool and
a provocateur for fun & I didn't think that it was a challenge at the time,
but I think that's the thing that surprised most people and the feedback I've
had in the initial stages.
First of all, it was, before they'd seen it, "Well, this is going to be
cruel, it's making fun of old people," and then they saw it and they were
confused. Then they went, "I can't find the cruelty, I'm still looking — I'll
get back to you." And then they went, "It's not cruel at all, it's really
sincere and there's piano and it's nice." [Laughs] Their perception
completely changed, of course.
That's what makes it more of a drama as well. I mean, it's still the same
stuff. I still do excruciating social faux pas, I've always snuck in a bit of
pathos, I've always snuck in a bit of heart & a boy meets girl romance,
worries — I've always snuck those things in. I think the big departure in things
with David Brent, we were laughing at his blind spot, at the difference between
how David Brent sees himself and how we see him. Whereas in "Derek," the players
haven't got that blind spot. What they say is what they mean, what they mean is
what they say, and we sort of agree with them. So that's what makes it less the
usual comedy and more of a comedy drama.
How would you persuade someone who has never watched "Derek" to give the show
a shot? It's a bittersweet comedy-drama about the everyday struggle in life.
It's about how beautiful life is, warts and all.
It's difficult trying to do sort-of high-concept one-lines about a thing
that's basically a docu-soap that is a ramble of loads of people's lives. It's
not 'It's a man who can see through walls" — it's different every week. The
people are different every week. I would say it's a show about kindness and I
would say it's about ordinary people doing their best.
What/who would be at the top of your Emmy ballot? I think I'd have to give
it to Louis [CK] in my category — I love Louis. All the others are great but
Louis is sort of my type of guy.
Cards" is the show of the year, no doubt about it. I'm actually
jealous of [Kevin] Spacey: He gets to do a great show and look down the
lens — that's my kind of show.
"Breaking Bad" & they have got to pick up something. Those three shows
stand out in my mind from this year and then a few other shows that weren't
nominated that aren't worth talking about [laughs].
Which episode did you pick as the Emmy episode and why? Episode 6, and I
picked that because I think it's got a bit of everything. I think it's the most
standalone. There is a beginning, middle and end to it. If you've never seen the
others you quickly realize that Derek's dad's ill, he's internet dating — he
hasn't dated for a while. There's a real sweetness when he goes on his first
date and it's really funny.
I also think it's probably the second-best episode. But the best episode, I
think it would be too much for Emmy voters to sit through and consider it as a
comedy performance. It's Episode 5, when I put the dog down and it's just, oh my
God — it's like a workout. The dog dies, Hannah cries because Tom is going off
to sea and it's just one trauma after another. In context it's great and it's
sort of uplifting and really important, but I think for Emmy voters who have
never seen the show and they go, "Well what's this little comedy show from that
funny guy Ricky Gervais who did 'The Office' and 'The
Golden Globes?' Oh, he's killing a dog and he's crying." [Laughs] So that was my
thinking behind Episode 6.
Anyone who hasn't seen Derek, you are missing out. One of the sweetest, saddest, nicest shows I have ever seen. He is not at all making fun of disabled people or old people. I know that you wouldn't except a show like this from Ricky Gervais but I think it's his best show to date.
The show has a great deal of heart. Gervais plays about as far against type as you can imagine, and you see not only how decent the character he plays is but how decent HE is for creating such a show. His supporting cast, which includes the great Karl Pilkington, is excellent as well.
I have watched the entire series at least twice. I laugh like hell and still cry every time I view it.
I have a toad in my garden that I now address as "Mr. Toad". I loves him!! I didn't lick him and for that I'm sure we were both grateful! Please keep these shows coming. Dear Mr. Gervais, this is one of the most wonderful shows I have ever seen. Thank you so much! Anyone who reads this and gets the chance to see it, take a look and at it If you are human and have a heart, you will love it!
Wow, I don't even have Netflix and want to check this out. By what I've read so far, the show sounds like my life in the Panhandle of Dallas County, Alabama. hahahah will have to check it out!!!! Mahalo Bra, Cherio, Komal Tata, Manana, Danka, @mayermiar ;)